tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post116966578994420520..comments2024-03-06T03:58:39.540-06:00Comments on The Viral Garden: Is attempting to kill off 'social media' about accuracy, or ego?Mack Collierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02723628321171539590noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169827914981307742007-01-26T10:11:00.000-06:002007-01-26T10:11:00.000-06:00Agreed. Not to mention the fact that for every "a-...Agreed. Not to mention the fact that for every "a-list" blogger (like most of the commenters here), there are 1000+ crap bloggers that will either go away or think they're doing the world a service even though they have zero subscribers. You don't have that type of presence in mainstream journalism. Don't get me wrong, I agree that a lot of journalist are bad, but at least most of them are educated and have some formal training in writing. <BR/><BR/>The free nature of the blogosphere is one of the best and worst aspects of it. I think social media as a term is fine. There are a lot of various "media" tags (interactive, print, dynamic, broadcast, etc...). It's much broader than radio & television.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169798300599724702007-01-26T01:58:00.000-06:002007-01-26T01:58:00.000-06:00"Yep. Personally I'd rather hold the gate open tha..."Yep. Personally I'd rather hold the gate open than attempt to be a gatekeeper to this movement."<BR/><BR/>Well said. Amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169749486212816952007-01-25T12:24:00.000-06:002007-01-25T12:24:00.000-06:00We need to have name for every communications tool...We need to have name for every communications tool so we can discuss it. Since social media seems to be a phrase common to so many of us, changing its name is akin to changing a popular and successful brand identity--not a smart marketing move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169736637213158892007-01-25T08:50:00.000-06:002007-01-25T08:50:00.000-06:00David: Must have been a fluke, looks like T-Rati h...David: Must have been a fluke, looks like T-Rati has you back above 500. You can now enjoy the same popularity with Everyman as Scoble and Rubel ;)<BR/><BR/>Cam: Isn't MSM seen as old and stody right now, and social media is hip and cool? I agree, I think it's an ego thing.<BR/><BR/>Gavin: This was exactly how I saw it. We all are excited that we finally have a voice, then after a while, some decide they want to revert and attempt to tell others that their voice can no longer be heard. <BR/><BR/>Mario: I agree on the 'provocative writing' angle. IMO, that type of writing tends to give a short-term boost in traffic, and over time, regular readers are put off by it. Just my opinion.Mack Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02723628321171539590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169716625798006802007-01-25T03:17:00.000-06:002007-01-25T03:17:00.000-06:00I really appreciate Mario's comment. The big diffe...I really appreciate Mario's comment. The big difference is the streaming which in Media is one way only.<BR/>Sometimes to be provoking is a way to test reaction.gianandreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705198210724351037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169708689199304622007-01-25T01:04:00.000-06:002007-01-25T01:04:00.000-06:00Hi Mack, Attempting to kill off "social media" is ...Hi Mack, <BR/><BR/>Attempting to kill off "social media" is more about inaccuracy than anything else. <BR/><BR/>While Social Media is more about sharing media w/ each other, Media is about content consumed by one another. There are NO CONVERSATIONS in media, just content from THEM to US. <BR/><BR/>In addition, I believe it's also a case of provocative writing. Nothin more, nothin less...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169698464134882492007-01-24T22:14:00.000-06:002007-01-24T22:14:00.000-06:00"Seems to be a case of some folks wanting to be in..."Seems to be a case of some folks wanting to be invited to the big kid table. IMO, there's very little there worth eating."<BR/><BR/>I think Cam's comment summed it up quite nicely. Couldn't agree more...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169696879527234562007-01-24T21:47:00.000-06:002007-01-24T21:47:00.000-06:00wait, those empowered by social media are trying t...wait, those empowered by social media are trying to control it but still champion that we shouldn't be controlling with our messages and actions...but empowering?<BR/><BR/>Am I confused or did I get this right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169687179611188292007-01-24T19:06:00.000-06:002007-01-24T19:06:00.000-06:00That's just silly that some people want to change ...That's just silly that some people want to change the name. <BR/><BR/>"Social Media" is a completely appropriate name, and I would feel like it would be a downgrade to be lumped in with mainstream journalists.<BR/><BR/>To be honest, I've been blogging for almost a year, and I just recently figured out what the phrase "social media" meant. <BR/><BR/>Please don't change the terms on me now! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169681678981221572007-01-24T17:34:00.000-06:002007-01-24T17:34:00.000-06:00Oh boy, I picked up on this when he first proposed...Oh boy, I picked up on this when he first proposed killing off in december: http://blog.experiencecurve.com/archives/social-media-is-dead-so-says-steve-rubel<BR/><BR/>the best thing i've seen written about what defines social media was by stowe boyd here: <BR/>http://www.bluewhalelabs.com/2007/01/23/social-media-isnt-everything-a-primer-on-social-terms/<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169678850457276502007-01-24T16:47:00.000-06:002007-01-24T16:47:00.000-06:00I agree with you, Mack. Rubel's right that social ...I agree with you, Mack. Rubel's right that social media is part of the media, but to banish the phrase is ridiculous. We still distinguish between broadcast media and print media, and we need a way to refer to the distinctive genre of media that takes the form of blogs, online video/photo sharing, social network sites, podcasts, wikis, social bookmarking, etc. Using the phrase "social media" has nothing to do with denigrating people using it -- it's simply a way of being more precise.Nedra Weinreichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812676982232285210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169678195236961172007-01-24T16:36:00.000-06:002007-01-24T16:36:00.000-06:00Isn't it interesting that when old structures and ...Isn't it interesting that when old structures and ways of thinking come tumbling down that we try and reinstitute some of the barriers that we broke down in the first place?<BR/><BR/>Structure is always so seductive as is power. And exclusing new entrants is one way to maintain that power base ... it takes a lot more grace and generosity to maintain a commitment to open borders. I am with you Mack, more is always more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169678086249767072007-01-24T16:34:00.000-06:002007-01-24T16:34:00.000-06:00The term Social Media is accurate and acceptable t...The term Social Media is accurate and acceptable to multiple classes I talk with, whether corporate or mainstream media, consumer or small business. People get it without scrunching up their faces with that "huh?" look.<BR/><BR/>So many voices still dipping their toes into the water for the first time. <BR/><BR/>Just wondering about history...was there a movement to kill the term 'telephone' or 'postcard'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169676614790427052007-01-24T16:10:00.000-06:002007-01-24T16:10:00.000-06:00Seems to be a case of some folks wanting to be inv...Seems to be a case of some folks wanting to be invited to the big kid table. IMO, there's very little there worth eating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24784219.post-1169672362915762002007-01-24T14:59:00.000-06:002007-01-24T14:59:00.000-06:00Mack,And you thought I was kidding when I sent you...Mack,<BR/><BR/>And you thought I was kidding when I sent you that e-mail from my "A-list" summit. See—I told you "we" were re-writing the rules! :)<BR/><BR/>I totally agree with your assesment. Can we please call things what they are? Social Media as a label is accurate. Let's not overthink any of this.<BR/><BR/>PS. you'll be happy to know that I am officially no longer an "A-lister" as my Technorati rankings plunged into the 300's overnight!<BR/><BR/>The Technorati giveth—and taketh away. Life just isn't worth living... :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com